Enemies of the StateWatch E002 ↗

The conversation

What does it cost to insist upon a right?

Dexter Taylor speaks from prison about the case that led to his ten-year sentence. Ammon Bundy joins the conversation to examine the distance between rights written on paper and rights people can actually exercise when institutions refuse to recognize them.

“Rights are not self-defending.”

In this episode

Two men. Two confrontations with state power.

01 / Guest profileDexter Taylor

Software engineer and lifelong builder serving a ten-year sentence after assembling firearms for personal use.

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02 / Guest profileAmmon Bundy

Advocate and activist reflecting on rights, institutional power, and the consequences of resistance.

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Hosted by

James Babb

From Punk Rock Libertarians, James hosts E001 and keeps the conversation centered on the people inside the case.

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Show notes + sources

References from the conversation.

02 / Reference

The Constitution of No Authority

“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain — that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
Lysander Spooner · No Treason (1870) ↗
03 / Reference

Power concedes nothing without a demand

“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”
Frederick Douglass · West India Emancipation speech (1857) ↗
05 / Reference

The voter and the questions

“The democracy has a right to answer questions, but it has no right to ask them. It is still the political aristocracy that asks the questions. And we shall not be unreasonably cynical if we suppose that the political aristocracy will always be rather careful what questions it asks.”
G. K. Chesterton · The Voter and the Two Voices ↗
06 / Reference

The foundational first-person plural

Dexter Taylor paraphrases Roger Scruton: before defining the proper roles of government and citizens, a people must be able to say “we” and “us” and mean it.

Episode E001 · 29:22 ↗
07 / Reference

Culture is upstream from politics

“It was Andrew Breitbart who said, ‘Culture is upstream from politics.’ Well, obviously the first-person plural — the we, the sacred we — is upstream from culture, because for there to be such a thing as our culture, there must be such a thing as us.”
Dexter Taylor · Episode E001 · 31:05 ↗
10 / Reference

Despotism and isolation

“Despotism, which is of a very timorous nature, is never more secure of continuance than when it can keep men asunder; and all its influence is commonly exerted for that purpose. No vice of the human heart is so acceptable to it as egotism: a despot easily forgives his subjects for not loving him, provided they do not love each other.”
Alexis de Tocqueville · Democracy in America (1835) ↗
12 / Reference

3D-printed firearms in New York

The episode includes a clip from an Eyewitness News ABC7NY interview with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg about New York legislation intended to prevent 3D printers from producing firearm components.

Eyewitness News ABC7NY · June 9, 2026 ↗